David Graeber on a Fair Future Economy
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David Graeber is an anthropologist, a leading figure in the Occupy movement, and one of our most original and influential public thinkers. He comes to the RSA to address our current age of ‘total bureaucratization’, in which public and private power has gradually fused into a single entity, rife with rules and regulations, whose ultimate purpose is the extraction of wealth in the form of profits. David will consider what it would take, in terms of intellectual clarity, political will and imaginative power – to conceive and build a flourishing and fair future economy, which would maximise the scope for individual and collective creativity, and would be sustainable and just. Listen to the full podcast here: https://www.thersa.org/discover/audio/2015/04/towards-an-economy-that-works-for-us/ Follow the RSA on Twitter: twitter.com/thersaorg Like the RSA on Facebook: facebook.com/thersaorg
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WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! <3
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I liked the point about bureaucracies apparently being Utopian in their promises but always making rules which make sure they don't deliver, and then blaming A.N.Other for their bureaucracies failure to deliver. It is a logic has punctuated my life ; I got blamed for being depressed when I was trying to follow the promises which were not going to be delivered on. The alternative was to be accused of cynicism if I queried systems on the the lack of delivery on promises made. The sole choice was of being either accused or blamed. It seemed almost Orwellian. Pity about the rushed delivery of the speaker, but the message is still good...
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Haha. This video was attached to a Goldman Sachs commercial, which claimed that the latter has helped to rebuild and restore New Orleans. Classic.
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Burocracy has become this massive elaborate culture of thievery! The loosers and nobodies of a population will always find clever ways to gang up on the more productive ones and leach the products out of them. Unfortunetly this is what money has become today. Central banks giving free money to governments to give to people , who just go out there and buy ready products and consume them. It's like the people in charge imagine this society , where 10% of the people just invent and produce and deliver all of the useful products , and then the rest of the people somehow have rights over this productivity , or over this technological process.
And people who can do 10 or 20 or even 50 different jobs can hardly unfold their potential , because someone somewhere has to have a seat at the JOB thingy... because those dirty "go with the flow" burocrats just have the right to process meaningless paperwork for a few hours per day , and then go out and buy an iPhone , or a car , or something else they couldn't produce in a million years! -
Woah, insane editing going on here! You don't need to cut out every moment of silence, it's extremely jarring!
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"(paraphrasing) Making up rules people can't follow and punishing them for it, for example JP Morgan Chase... is the driving force of capital accumulation now." Quite an extreme over-generalization. Does Dell do this? Apple? Samsung? Ford? GM? Walmart? The barber shop? The grocery store? My local Thai restaurant? He said "driving force of capitalism now." Don't get me wrong, I like anyone who is anti-state, just please avoid such blatant over-generalizations. Banks (at least JPMC) yes, but all that makes up capitalism? Hardly.
(I don't defend capitalism if it's defined as what we have today as a partnership between private market forces and government violence). Take out government and let people self-organize, and let's see what kind of market relationships form and how they get named. -
I like his point about the robots
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First minute doesn't look so good, but this guy is on the right track. Worth watching. And if you enjoy this, search for Peter Joseph or Jacque Fresco here on youtube for an intuition explosion.
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The reason people don't write about burocracy is bc its too hard too spell.
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What's worse than listening to an economist about "the future"; listening to an anthropologist about "economy". Nice one-liners, but light on content. I agree that bureaucracy is a nuisance but who really expects a diminishing of bureaucracy when the population expands. "Finance is other peoples debt" So, what's the problem? Or do you mean like 'Food is another persons hunger' ? Without debt (in any shape or form) a society (even an undiscovered tribe in some jungle) cannot function. Debt in itself is not evil.
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Why wasn't the full video uploaded to Youtube somewhere?
I would like to add it to my watch-later list please.
This is the first RSA video i've seen that hasn't been made available in full. Bit odd. -
"Finance is other people's debt", touché.
"Bureaucracy is always an enemy of democracy", Cornelius Castoriadis.
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