Swarajya Conversations with Sanjeev Sanyal - Chennai 9 Feb 2016
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‘Swarajya Conversations’ is a brand new series of events which will consist of a 60 minute tête-à-tête between a distinguished guest and our host. Conversations will feature thought provoking discussions with some of India’s leading thinkers, economists, technologists, business leaders and figures in public life. The 60 minute session will include Q&A session and high tea. The first chapter of Swarajya Conversations was held in Chennai on the 9th of February 2016. The speaker was Sanjeev Sanyal a historian, urban designer and an economist. Sanjeev Sanyal is one of Asia’s leading economists, best-selling author of Land of the Seven Rivers: A Brief History of India’s Geography, Eisenhower Fellow and Rhodes Scholar, Sanjeev Sanyal addressed a gathering at the Press Club of India. In it, he highlighted the need, and presented the case for a revamped, Indian version of Indian history. Chandu Nair hosted the event. Chandu Nair is the co-founder of Scope e-Knowledge Center, a pioneering knowledge process outsourcing company that scaled up to 1000+ people before his exit, his areas of focus were business development and fund raising, and his passion was enterprise building and transformation. The subject was, “On Global Economic Trends And India’s Challenges”. Discussing a wide range of topics in Economics, Sanjeev Sanyal discussed the China factor in the global economy and its decreasing labour force and rapidly decreasing population. He also discussed about the future population of the world and how many of us may end up working well into our 70s. He elaborated on the future demographics of the world and how that would dictate the emerging cities. Mr.Sanyal also discussed about India not being a Urban major country and how it would be in our own lifetime. He went on to explain what the emerging cities in India would be like and how rapid urbanisation has a direct effect on birth rate. The discussion also went into Arthashastra and Ashoka’s Edicts and how King Ashoka was ‘anti-kautilya’ in many ways. Mr.Sanyal, a firm believer in a ‘Chanakyan State’ discussed on how a strong and a limited state is important and how the poor are much better protected by a functional judicial system than some kind of subsidy. Sanjeev Sanyal explained how the world functions as a complex adaptive system in which a large number of independent or semi independent agents that are continuously interacting with each other and are adapting to the existing system.
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swarajya magazine really worth Indian by nature ,,,please organise some more conversation OF OUR REAL INDIGENOUS INTELLECTUALS ...
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although he explained very clearly, i didnot understand a damn thing.
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excellent host
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Great talk..
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That music in between is absolutely awful. Sounds like a singing snake dying.
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I just discovered SanjeevS, his lectures are superb,and it makes you re-look things and question the standard narrative.
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Sanjeev sanyal, very clear thoughts and keeps it simple
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The host should have been given a mike
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Current context in India on having not peace here.
https://fakegossipblog.wordpress.com/2016/02/27/lets-not-be-peace-there/ -
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parts of the conversation especially the questions are not audible, be nice to add subtitles where the audio is poor -
badi badi baatein but can't get the audio right. such a turn off especially for a platform called 'swarajya'. do take care of it.
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Very good initiative and very engaging session. We must definitely go back to our Chankyan roots rather than clinging to alien socialist Ashoka-Nehruvian constructs.
If things go right for India, India will grow at a scale which is unprecedented and not even remotely imaginable by today's standards. Provided we get rid of JNU-type riff-raffs and Afzal Guru/ Kashmir separatist/ Dravidian separatist type non-sense.
History is witness to the fact that we got rid of the socialist tyrant Ashoka and his legacy in a couple of generations 2000 years ago, and I am quite positive that we will in a generation or two get rid of the last vestige of Nehruvian socialists.
On the Sanskrit part, again I agree with the other comment and respectfully disagree with the Shri Sanyal. Sanskrit is a complex adaptive system - it did not die, certain people tried to kill it - it still lives today in our lives directly or indirectly. The principles were frozen by Panini and not the language itself but the freedom of expanding and creating new vocabularies, thought constructs and structures continued unabated till well into 18th century when British dealt a death blow.
Even today when new words are to be constructed in Thailand and south east Asia they refer to Sanskrit for creating new words. For example, bank is called dhanaagar in Thai and cycle is called dvichakravahan in Thai. But we Indians still being mentally colonized perfer the anglicized version rather than the indigenous Sanskrit forms.
One request: Q&A questions were inaudible. Please ensure better audio during Q&A. -
Great speech and discussion by Sanyal ji. However, I respectfully disagree with him regarding Sanskrit dying out. Sanskrit is alive through all arms of Sanskriti - in dance, in music, in yagna, in mantras, in architecture, in paintings and so on. Whether it has more than a few thousand speakers who use it as a day to day language today is not of huge consequence. Sanskrit as a utilitarian language can be thought of as the formal and unchanging core and most of our other vernaculars are informal offshoots. The creativity with prose and meme spreading can happen better through the vernaculars. On the other hand, texts like the Arthashastra which Sanyal ji is obviously fond of, can be preserved over time with formal Sanskrit.
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